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How to Counter Sylvans

Duel Links how to beat Sylvan deck, anti-sylvan cards,
update 17/04/2018

Sylvan decks

After the release of the Mini Box "Rampage of the Forest," Sylvan decks have have been dominating in PvP. This is because they are more accessible and easy to use since it starts with 1 Sylvan Komushroomo to destroy their opponent's monsters and spells and traps. But since Sylvan decks don't use a lot of spells and traps themselves because they need to excavate their plant monsters, this can be telling when they only set 1 monster on the field and pass the turn since it's most likely a Komushroomo, and negating it can be the key.

To know how to deal with a Sylvan deck, you'll need to understand their deck first, so be sure to check an example deck list first.

KC Cup

Since Sylvans decks are quite strong, there are a lot of people in the KC Cup that are using a Sylvan deck. It's good to prepare some counters against them if you want to climb through the ranks, as you'll most likely be facing plenty of them in both stage 1 and 2 of the KC Cup, while still being able to use them against other deck types of course.

Counters

  • Generally, if you think you're going against a Sylvan deck and they only set 1 monster, the possible monsters are Rose Lover, Magical Merchant, Sylvan Komushroomo, or World Carrotweight Champion.
  • You will need to pay attention if your opponent uses Rose Lover to special summon a monster. A monster that is special summoned using Rose Lover's effect is immune to traps for a turn, so make sure to not waste your Wall of Disruption, or Windstorm of Etaqua carelessly.
  • Keep track of how many Sylvan Marshalleaf and Komushroomo that are excavated and sent to the grave. If all 3 are already used, then you won't have to worry about getting your monster(s), or spells/traps destroyed.
  • Keep in mind that some Sylvan decks like to run cards that can return cards from the grave to the deck, and they will most likely return their Marshalleaf and Komushroomo.

Negating monster effects

The easiest way to prevent a Sylvan deck from popping off is to negate their effects, starting with Komushroomo since it mills 5 cards from their deck.

  • This makes Forbidden Chalice one of the most versatile card you can put in any deck to counter them since you can use it when you attack a Komushroomo, or use it when they flip their card.

  • Divine Wrath and Ultimate Providence have a slight drawback since you need to discard a card, but still effective against many deck types too since monster effects are quite common.

  • Both Divine Wrath and Ultimate Providence does not target, this means they are effective against cards like Hazy Flame Sphynx, and Ultimate Providence can be used to negate a spell/trap as well.

Pre-emptive destruction

If you think your opponent is playing a Sylvan deck, whether it's because they only set 1 monster, or because they used a Restart skill to show their hand, you can destroy their monster before they get to flip their Komushroomo.

  • Tribute to The Doomed, Parallel Twister, and Snipe Hunter can be used to destroy any monster, even if they are in face-down position.
  • The cost to use them is to discard a card, so it's better if you use these cards with certain cards/deck that can benefit from being in the grave.
  • Tribute to The Doomed can be good in a mirror matchup since you can discard a Rose Lover and special summon a monster, along with your normal summon to potentially win the game early.
  • Parallel Twister can be good in an Arkbrave Dragon deck because of cards like Paladin/Guardian of Felgrand, or good in a Paleozoic deck.
  • Snipe Hunter is arguably the most versatile of the 3 since you can target any card your opponent controls, provided they are not untargetable. This requires some luck and a cost of a discard though.

Unaffected / Untargetable

Assuming the worst, if a Komushroomo's effect activates and it sends a Marshalleaf and a Komushroomo, it will destroy both your monster and your spell/trap card. To avoid being left defenseless, you can use cards like Forbidden Dress to prevent getting destroyed, or banish it.

  • Forbidden Dress makes a monster untargetable, and can't be destroyed by card effects. But since it lowers a monster's attack by 600, it can easily be destroyed by battle, so it's best to use it on a monster with some good defense, or if you have some other protection cards.
  • Sea Stealth Attack is used in a Citadel Whale water deck, which is also a very strong deck that can go against Sylvans. When your opponent targets your monster, or the spell/trap card, you can activate Sea Stealth Attack to protect your monster and face-up spells and traps. But this will leave you open for attacks if you only have 1 monster and you banished it.
  • Other banish cards that you can tech in for most decks are cards like Interdimensional Matter Transporter, or Dimension Gate, which are still some good options.

Miss timing

This method can be a tricky, and mostly benefits if you are also using monsters with flip effects like a Geargia deck. Since Komushroomo's effect states that it will only activate when it's flipped face-up, this means that if it's flipped face-up in a response to something, resulting in its activation being in chain link 2 or higher, it will miss its timing.

  • Since Geargia deck benefits from The Spell Absorbing Life anyway, this can provide a way for you to prevent Komushroomo from activating.
  • Geargiattacker also has a similar effect activation as Komushroomo, so you'll need to be careful when using it since you can also make it miss its timing.
  • Geargianchor will not miss its timing if you use Spell Absorbing Life in chain link 2 or higher, and it will let you destroy your opponent's monster still, but only if you have other Geargia monster(s).

Other useful cards

These cards aren't all that versatile, but if you are using certain decks that work with them, then these can be some optional ways to get rid of Komushroomo.

CardExplanation
Lava Golem
Lava Golem
Can be a good tech card against many decks, but you can't summon any other monster for the rest of the turn.
Man-Eater Bug
Man-Eater Bug
Good option to set as first monster if you get first turn. Can also bait your opponent's Forbidden Chalice.
Evil Dragon Ananta
Evil Dragon Ananta
For Alien decks only. It's a good card removal since you can also destroy spell/trap card, but weak to Enemy Controller.
Divine Punishment
Divine Punishment
Counter trap Fairy deck is quite strong since you can negate most things, but relies heavily on getting some decent hand.
Different Dimension Ground
Different Dimension Ground
Banishing the excavated monsters prevents their effects from activating, but this only lasts for a turn.
Super Rush Headlong
Super Rush Headlong
This can help protect you for a turn to prevent getting destroyed by Hermitree. Also helps get over Komushroomo if it's face-up.

Comments

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Anonymous
Sylvan is the best! Started playing last week and made it to Legendary Rank 3 already!
<< Anonymous
Anonymous Reply
Thats why this thing is so dissapointing
Anonymous
What about Big Burn new R card you can get with PvP reward? I haven’t had a chance to use it yet but seems like it could negate sylvans.
<< Anonymous
whoresuckingdick43 Reply
it doesnt work.
<< Anonymous
Anonymous Reply
Not sure what you'd hope to trigger it off. Guardioak is the only commonly used one that targets stuff in the Graveyard. (Lotuswain and Peaskeeper do as well, but that's not too relevant.)
Anonymous
last day of the sylvans...
Anonymous
i beat sylvan deck with yami marik shadow game skill with deck dectruction and something to protect me
<< Anonymous
Anonymous Reply
3/4 but i almost everytime a duel against masked hero i lose with that yami marik decks
LifeStyle
I accidentally went into pvp with my no skill auto-duel deck I'm using to level up Syrus. Beat a Sylvan player, lmfaooooooooooo. I can only imagine how triggered he got after peeping my deck recipe.
<< Anonymous(LifeStyle)
LifeStyle Reply
He also had Grit.
<< Anonymous(LifeStyle)
Anonymous Reply
Lol brainless sylvanians
<< Anonymous
Anonymous Reply
ya if a sylvanian deck loses it is his/her fault, some are brainless at times, but most people just rage and πŸ”₯ the deck since they have no skill to counter it.
Anonymous
I have had success running an overpowered equip deck with restart. I use Paladin of Felgrand with 2 equip cards to negate the marshleaf. Some players may not have 3 mushrooms so it has worked well for me. Simply deck that is surprisingly fun to play.
Sean
Run 2-3 Different Dimension Ground in a good deck that can make room for it. If they set 1 and pass, set this, summon a monster and pass. Next turn they flip Komushroomo, banish 5 from their deck so they can't even recycle the wasted cards, and if they play another monster, you just run over them.

Let's say you play Geargia. If you open with a hand like: Geargianchor, TotB, DDG and Pulse Mines, you will win. Yes that's a specific hand but my point is DDG really cripples Sylvans. Not only do they lose all their plays for a turn, but they probably lost a huge chunk of their deck as well, in a deck that has no way of getting them back.
Anonymous
The problem with this deck is that u can get mostly all cards inside a 80 box.
That s why evrybody as it.
Goin against sylvan sometimes would be okay, but now evrybody as it, πŸ”₯ing πŸ”₯. Boring to play
Sutra
I love flower deck like Aroma and Sunflower etc, their effect and image are quite refreshing, but not again since Sylvan appear, plus flower deck actually get bad reputation because of it, uh seriously dont plunge all flower deck are like sylvan, they are not the same
<< Anonymous
Sutra Reply
Im so very agree with you man, really you understand me well
<< Anonymous
Anonymous Reply
I don't think it has to do with Sylvans but balance. Some cards become more suspect once other decks make use of them. Sylvans field nuke isn't the issue at all. AT best they can maybe get 1 Marsh with 1500 ATK and a carrot out which means you survive. When you add Rose lover into the fray then you get the 1TKO. Even if you limit Mushroom, and Marsh, you'd still have the potent 1TKO thanks to Ros
<< Anonymous
Anonymous Reply
This is card game. It will ALWAYS BE UNBALANCE.

It's like in a car race, you are free to use whatever vehicle you choose. Some use high powered bike, some use f1 car, then some dude came up with idea of hoverbike.
<< Anonymous(Sutra)
Anonymous Reply
Rose Lover shouldn't be limited or banned it was used in the Lightsworn engine and wasn't as broken as this
Sutra
Conclusion
You cant win against Sylvan no matter what you do unless you have counter card in the first turn you got. So if you find your opponent set monster and doesnt lay any trap, and you dont have counter card in your possesion that turn, only one you can do, surrender
<< Anonymous(Sutra)
Anonymous Reply
The facedown card might be carrot or rose lover. If it was mushroomo, it still might get πŸ”₯ mills
<< Anonymous
Sutra Reply
even if it is rose lover or carrot, assuming you only can summon one monster that turn and end turn afterward, the next turn they will genocide you
<< Anonymous(Sutra)
Sutra Reply
The most effective deck against sylvan in my opinion is Dakini and Hazy Flame deck, that is if you can summon them in the first turn
<< Anonymous(Sutra)
Sutra Reply
Also there is huge demerit since Main Phase 2 is removed, so you cant carelessly set trap before attack opponent set monster
Anonymous
i managed to beat 2 sylvan decks with a spellbook deck
<< Anonymous
Sutra Reply
Starting from SSA onward, the newer release deck are mostly cheat
SSA -> Sylvan -> mask hero -> spellbook -> spellbook
<< Anonymous(Sutra)
Sutra Reply
cheat, unfair and unhealthy
SomeDudeOnSchooliPad
Aromage Jasmine works too
<< Anonymous(SomeDudeOnSchooliPad)
Sutra Reply
Nope, aroma deck already outclassed with newest deck like sylvan or spellbook
<< Anonymous(SomeDudeOnSchooliPad)
Anonymous Reply
What does Jasmine has to do with countering Sylvan anyway
<< Anonymous
Sutra Reply
Now that you say it, its true haha

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