I also get the message that I missed the timing to use Pinch Hopper's effect. Aparrently, the effect does not apply if you use Pinch Hopper to tribute summon a monster. But the description is very clear: the effect happens when the card is sent to the graveyard. There is no "ifs" here, so I think it's a bug.
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Summoner of Illusion's effect reads "Tribute 1 other monster, AND IF YOU DO, Special Summon 1 Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck".
Due to the way it's worded, "and if you do", both effects are actually happening simultaneously, meaning that both the tribute and the fusion summon are the last thing to happen, so Pinch Hopper activates. Hope this helps!
summoner of illusions effect is not a fusion summon!
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Pinch Hopper effect activates when he is on your field and than is sent to the graveyard.
His effect triggers when he touches the graveyard immediately!
Insect imitation tributes Pinch Hopper + SS another monster!
The problem is Pinch Hopper effect + SS are happening at the same time.
The tribute is the first part of the spell. You still have to finish the spell by doing the SS.
Normally, when 2 things happen at the same time a chain will happen.
The problem is a chain can't happen here!
The reason why is because once you finish the second part of the spell I.E SS another monster.
Pinch Hopper is in the graveyard!
His effect only actives when he is first sent to the grave which is before you SS.
Once you have finished SS. His effect doesn't exist any more.
You are missing the "Missing the timing of his effect". He only has a brief "Window" to do his effect. Insect imitation sadly doesn't work with him.
However, It is good information to know. It can help you think of different strategy or you can try to use Insect on another monster.
To clarify for everyone curious as to why you can't activate the effect after tributing:
"When"-"you can" effects miss their activation window if they're not the last thing to happen. So, if you tribute him, the last thing to happen is the monster being tribute summoned, not hopper going to grave.
Gravekeeper's Recruiter effect is "When"- only, different with "When"-"you can" effect. That's a mandatory effect, means if the condition ever meet, the effect will always active except being negated (eg. by card effect). The other similar effect type is "If"-"you can". To be simple, it's the same as "When"- only effect except you can choose to active it or not. CMIIW.
Blue Dragon Summoner = "If" - "You Can".
So, you say it's the same as "When"- "you can", but it's not - because BDS works with a Tribute.
Missing the timing: Because the effect of "Pinch Hopper" effect is an optional "when... you can" Trigger Effect, "Pinch Hopper" being sent to the Graveyard has to be the very last thing that happened in order for you to activate its effect. So if you Tribute "Pinch Hopper" for a Tribute Summon, you cannot activate the effect of "Pinch Hopper" because the last thing to happen will be the Summoning of the Tribute monster. Also, if you Tribute "Pinch Hopper" for "Cannon Soldier", the very last thing that happened will be the 500 points of damage inflicted to your opponent, so the effect of "Pinch Hopper" will not activate.
Sometime, when the pinch hopper is killed by an other monster, there is an electric effect on the card and I can't use the special effect of the card. It's the same when I suicide the card on a bigger monster. Is that normal ?
How can I trig the effect correctly ?
Hmmm I should be more attentive next time :/
Ty dude !
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This monster will not function if there is currently an effect on the stack.
*if you sacrifice this card as a cost for activation, the effect will not work. Message: "Missed chance to activate effect!" will be displayed.
It makes no sense. The description is very clear: "When this card you control is sent to your Graveyard". Well, if you use pinch hopper to tribute summon a monster, it is sent to the graveyard, no doubt about that. The effect should apply in this case.