just a qution, if konami ban some cards like NK, desperados, wht r the best d... | General Discussion - YuGiOh! Duel Links

Anoymous

there are a dozens broken decks like NK, desperado. if they are all banned then the 2-3 dozens of non broken decks will be viable.
problem is that non broken decks are more f2p and less profitable. no reason for konami to do this.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

That's your solution? Just keep banning over half the cards in the game for us to use just because you lose to them? For everything that disappears, then something older will become "broken" in its place. Just play pve or quit this game instead of whining all the time.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

so what's left? no one have the answer,
-i hate when one or two deck dominate the game, it's obviouse those two deck r overpower *10 beyond the other deck.

-for exp: NK going first, 90% winrate. desperados win from nowhere, flip coin effect is degenerate. i love when all decks has a chance to win, but right now those two decks r killing everything. even when shiranui was op, rogue deck had chance

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

Desperado did still exist back then and nobody used it. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

hhh, i knw why no one used it befor, bcs desperados had a very bad match vs cocytus.
why i hate desperados, u can lose vs desperados with just a coin flip, for exp: headjudging is fd, i use a monster effect, i lose to coin flip & i lose my monster too, i use again a monster effect, i lose to coin flip and it continue over & over again.
why play a card game, let play coin flip instead.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

^
Can you rewrite that in English please?

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

fd = face down
exp= example
bcs = because
u = you
vs = versus
what's else ?

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

Of course there must be decks that have guaranteed 90% wins against others. If meta decks didn't have that then less players would buy new cards.
I don't like balanced games because they are all so boring and meta-less.
If you like balanced games where free decks and day-1 accounts can win 50% games against meta $500 then go play Moba.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

Powercreep is indeed a thing, but not exactly for the reason you think it was

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

"If you like balanced games where free decks and day-1 accounts can win 50% games against meta $500 then go play Moba."

Why are you so much against that?
In a game of skill a 1 day beginner should be allowed to win against 10 year $1000 meta account if he has more skill.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

And that already can happen, so probably that guy shouldn't like this game and try to find another game lol

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

Nope. This never happens.
A beginner with 1 day f2p account never won a single world tournament yet.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

Obviously not world tournament, NO game in the world, whatever it is, can have that happening. So world tournament is kinda irrelevant to the topic.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

"NO game in the world, whatever it is, can have that happening"

Really? NO game in the world?

Dota, Lol, Counter Strike, etc..

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

so the other anon saying "This never happens" is clearly wrong, then

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

the topic already shifted to just about any game, though. Not just DL.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

for DL, obviously that's impossible, which actually makes it completely irrelevant to balance.

To see actual balance, you see the meta and how each current meta decks performs.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

To be fair to him, the topic didn't shift

He said very skilled player using 1day f2p account can't win Duel Links world tournament = not balanced & p2w

Counter argument from someone : no other game is like that, even balanced one

He replied with valid game names

Other guy tried to change subject from DL being p2w & unbalanced to other games to hide it, and still failed.

Reading that is fun

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

The way I read it, it's more agreeing than a counter argument, the counter argument was the anon who listed the game names

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

Indeed, it's not fun for a multiple year old p2w account player to lose to a 1 day new f2p account in games like dota and lol.

Why must a p2w veteran like me BORINGLY lose to a f2p beginner?

That's why I play Duel Links. I can enjoy guaranteed win against zero effort players like those.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

A lot of "guaranteed wins" could disappear for you since a lot of f2p players could switch to the Chinese duel links app since you can't use money in it.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

"Why must a p2w veteran like me BORINGLY lose to a f2p beginner?"

That is not the definition of boring.
Also, a beginner should be able to win against the veteran you if he is more skilled.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

In fact, any scenarios where 'p2w veteran lose to a f2p beginner' will very much be super-interesting duel to watch.

Imagine the back-and-forth. Counter after counter, before someone top-decked key card or just pull off an interesting combo.

I'd watch that any day instead of 'tier-1 meta first turn or surrender' duel

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

Nothing interesting with that.

Most watched DL videos aren't about a veteran P2W player losing against beginner f2p <1500atk normal monster deck.

On the contrary, videos about P2W crushing a bunch of f2p weaklings have more views.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

That doesn't prove who has enjoyable match.

P2W crushing got more views because people want to steal the winning deck - because it is meta and easier to play. While the f2p winning, the deck won't be meta, and won't be consistent, and harder to pull victory, so it will get less view.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

also, P2W players are too ashamed to show videos of them losing lol

No argument about views if the videos basically don't exist in the first place, right :p

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

People watch videos to see fun stuffs too, like cats and gos doing stupid stuffs. Not just to copy a deck.

There are no popular videos of expensive veteran losing to a beginner f2p DL account simply because this is not fun but BORING.

Konami makes expensive power creep deck win against f2p to make DL less BORING.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

no, there are no popular videos of it simply because the videos don't exist in the first place. The veterans are too ashamed to upload it, while newbies won't think of uploading videos yet.

You're free to refuse to accept it, but the truth is, it has nothing to do with being boring at all.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

More like because the best cards beginners have are vanilla level 6 monsters with 1600atk lol.
You can't beat any meta deck with that. So no videos available.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

This shows the game is unbalanced.

If duel links was balanced then absolutely all cards would be as powerful as each other in a world tournament.

lvl6 1600 ATK vanilla monster can't do much and Konami isn't trying to balance it and make it as strong as Levianeer.