do you remember when a noob demanded a ban for this card? that was awkward. | Cipher Soldier | Duel Links & Master Duel - YuGiOh! Duel Links

Anoymous

they must have used x-sabers lol

Anoymous

It still needs a ban, it continues to be used with Mistake Surgery everywhere. Still can't believe they had the nerve to add a second and even a third copy of that 🔥 as completely f2p cards. It predates the very decks of Yusei and Yuya they released and want good people and new players to use.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

Are you a troll or a noob?

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

Just someone who doesn't want a 3350/3800 beater to be able to be normal summoned so easily. That kind of crap breaks the game.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

Got it. You‘re a noob

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

No, I’m not a noob. It’s true it becomes a big beater so easily and OTKs with spikeshield if normal set. It can OTK even without surgery with two or three spikes.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

There are so many better 2 card combos in this game. So, yes: You are a noob.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

Your logic: not mentioning other broken cards in a page about another broken card = noob. Brilliant.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

No, the logic is: You think this is a good card and that makes you a noob.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

It is. The fact there are other broken cards other than it doesn't make it not broken.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

This card was really good when 6Sam were a Tier 1 deck. Now, it's just a worhtless gimmick

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

It doesn't exist to beat them. It stands by itself because there's a broken card that makes every single monster a warrior. So it's a 3350 beater against everything. And calling me a noob won't change that.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

Let's count how many people have reached KoG with this strategy within the last few months, shall we?

Oh, wait. You won't be able to leave Silver rank with this silly combo. Ooops...

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

Don't tell me to test something broken. It doesn't need to get KoG to be broken. Stall burn is continuing to get KoG as documented, so all of their strategies continue to be worth hating against.

Anoymous

This card loses to any deck with back row removal.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

It doesn’t. They have 3 copies of DNA Surgery. And 3 copies of all kinds of backrow. You can’t remove all of them so easily.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

Don‘t argue with that troll/noob, guys

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

If your only argument is 🔥s, you're the troll.

Anoymous

But they’re not gonna always have that DNA surgery on hand, and there aren’t really any easy or efficient ways to search it. Meanwhile the opponent is ready 🔥 you on turn 2.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

They won’t be able to against so much stall. That’s why decks like this are so hard to beat. It’s not just 1 stall trap, it’s 30 million floodgates and Canadias that make it impossible to focus on Surgery and Cipher. There are only so many removal effects.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

Cipher also has to deal with spot removal. Good luck protecting a monster with no inherent protection. Before you counter with power of the guardians I have two words, karma cut.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

I agree that's the best way to beat Cipher himself, but it's so much pressure drawing those cards. He avoids floodgate by being facedown and flipping up upon my attack. Then it's a big beater hard to stall against unless he stupidly just stays in defense, scared of my backrow.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

I like how everyone says: "This card is really not good" and that single person still thinks: "This card is broken".

You can't change a fool's mind

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

"That’s why decks like this are so hard to beat. It’s not just 1 stall trap, it’s 30 million floodgates and Canadias that make it impossible to focus on Surgery and Cipher."

.....That's more those stall Trap cards being OP, not this card being OP. In that case the issue that should be hit are the Trap cards. This card alone is meh without those Trap cards, so this card is not the issue.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

This card is easier to hit than multiple trap cards. It’s too hard to imagine them hitting a very large amount of cards, there are too many options for stall. This card enables the play style too well, it stands out on how much damage it does.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

That‘s why they should hit Mushroom Man too. It‘s easier to hit that one than several other cards.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

>>Comparing Mushroom Man which has no potential by itself and is not used in stall burn.