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Robert _UK

Don't you guys think that duel links are becoming more and more p2p(pay to play)? You see the sheer amount of AG players in ladder and KC. These ag decks usually have 3 reactors,wyverns in it.(These are structure decks, only acquired by cash from second time.) This actually meant that there are a huge amount of players currently paying for the game. I am not sure how this will progress to, with the increase of paying players and becoming the norm. I am just afraid we might have to spend to be competitive in near future. It seemed to be going that way.

Anoymous

Its been that way for a while now

Box

I agreed with you. They are telling everyone to spend inorder to compete. Look around how many ags are there now?

Anoymous

I dunno why these folks have to pay to get a decent deck. Can't they try to play something f2p and take up the challenge? I didn't like what is happening, its no diff from paying to win a game mindset.

Anoymous

Whales and structure scrubs are fueling and feeding into that. Op make alot of sense.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

If a good F2P deck comes along, it gets hit, in some way, by the banlist (eventually). If a good P2W deck comes along, it might never get hit, because Lol.

<< Anonymous

Yang

Same with me, the game is moderately still F2P from my calculations, but the majority of what players find easier to play seem to be expensive decks of high investment. I can figure out how to tackle the meta with a budget deck, and though it can be hard sometimes, it IS doable.

<< Anonymous

Yang

Not all F2P decks get hit, Amazoness is still tier 3, Aliens, Geargias, and Hazy Flame have a higher cost than they apparently were if I remember correctly, but are still good, and what it takes is just careful and strategic play

<< Anonymous(Yang)

Ming

Its just disappointing when people go the easy way by means of "paying" to compete. Then they try to deny and argue when confronted with "p2w" label. What can we say about that ?

Anoymous

I don't want game to be p2p!!

<< Anonymous(Ming)

Anoymous

I'm sure the people here who call this game generous F2P and advised to play Alien and Aromages decks actually whales who play only expensive meta tier 1 decks themselves.

They close their eyes to the truth, because the less people playing good competitive decks is better for them.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

Please stop paywall cards konami. .

<< Anonymous

Can u get AG w/ gems

I'm surprised this comment thread wasn't still noticed by the infamous Konami spammer in this site, where the said spammer likes to spam "you can't win because you only hate", or the classic "you can get everything with gems" slogan. Surely, the dude is weighing whether he has a counterargument for this one.

<< Anonymous

Can u get AG w/ gem

That's how their tactics work, indeed. Some may call it psychological warfare/manipulation. Aliens, BEWD EX, Econ-take, etc. they illustrate a number of effective ways to counter an albeit strong meta deck, but otherwise said cards/combos stated cannot even mesh up properly in one deck. Then they have guts to say Konami is DOING WELL IN EVERYTHING. They manipulate. It's their forte. Sad but true.

Anoymous

At least the ancient gear structure deck didn't have any staples in it. The closest thing to a true staple is Gold Sarcophagus which is alright but usually too slow unless you're doing very specific combos with it.

<< Anonymous(Can u get AG w/ gems)

Anoymous

This is a good read. It left me thinking a bit.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

To be honest, I can respect more a player who whaled his collection of cards (over 100+ decks and deck variations) than a single scrub who bought an EX deck to win recent tourneys then brag that he's still a f2p because light spending is still considered f2p. The latter is the worst in this community.

<< Anonymous(Can u get AG w/ gems)

Anoymous

You guys act like AG is tier 1, if it is then it would be pay to win obviously, but it isn't. You can get almost every meta deck with only gems. It is expensive not because of how much money you spend into it, it is because we as players don't get enough gems. If that were the case, every meta deck would be F2P.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

2 things.

1) The point of argument being directed above is the mechanism of an EX deck. It "somehow" violates the notion of what f2p is, and breaking this formula is detrimental to the mentality of the larger playerbase, which is f2p players.

2. Gems, as stated above, is already nearly approaching as a "non-issue". If you "properly" read the screenshots above, f2p has this own inherent thing.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

(cont.)
AG (or any EX deck for that matter, if you're so careful with details and syntax) just tramples with that established inherency, meta or not.

<< Anonymous

Can u get AG w/ gems

It seems like some people here are AGAIN (and as always), cannot follow what's being discussed/opinionated)

Let me propose to you these three player classifications:

1) whale players (medium-heavy spending)
2) full EX-deck players (fixed amount)
3) f2p players (light-no spending)

Can you guess what's problematic in the 2nd type, the EX players?

<< Anonymous

Can u get AG w/ gems

Whale players abide by the principle of "whaling", obviously.

F2ps on the other hand, needs to manage their resources wisely, especially "TIME". The emphasis is on the latter because we assume here that "you can get everything with gems".

Ex-deckers?

<< Anonymous(Can u get AG w/ gems)

Anoymous

Free to play should literally mean you didn't spend any money. You can't claim f2p if you're spending money on the game.

<< Anonymous

Can u get AG w/ gems

EX-players, you can say they're in-between whales and f2ps, and at the same time they're not. Why this paradox?

EX-players, are technically NOT f2ps. They spent something. But "operationally-speaking", how would most of them play? They will save resources (gems) like f2ps. They are essentially f2ps, but became "something more" during particular pvp events or tourneys.

<< Anonymous

Can u get AG w/ gems

What does this entail about EX-players?

Whales who have EX decks excluded, one time EX-purchasers are considered by many to be "FREELOADING". They took some shortcut here and there. F2ps feel safe with their fellow f2ps because they know everyone suffers the same fate of managing their measly time and gems.

EX-players however, is an alienated class that can't be categorized with the other two

<< Anonymous

Can u get AG w/ gems

..that's why they take the backlash and may appear cheap and underhanded to some. And there's a reason for that.

They took this DETOUR, won some games here and there, saving a bit of time, effort, and gems. They violated what is considered the principle tenet of being an f2p player. Of course, it's another thing if they went ahead for the full whale route, but chances are THEY WOULDN'T.

<< Anonymous(Can u get AG w/ gems)

Anoymous

I like what you said about AG abusers so much!

Quoute: They are essentially f2ps, but became "something more" during particular pvp events or tourneys.

LOL!!!

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

Nope. f2p don't have to be zero spending. Those who just wait for UR and SR deals, one each box, they still considered f2p. f2p is literally you pay with time.

<< Anonymous

Nature

They just shdnt made some cards exclusive behind paywall, thats the fundamental root of problem. These cards usually create a meta, players not paying lost significant competivness, leading to what OP meant by a p2p situation.

Anoymous

Only kids think that "u can only be competitive by playing premium decks"

<< Anonymous(Nature)

dreamer

The company can definitely make it fair for all by making all cards available by gems, paying players can get faster by paying. That will resolve alot of social problems and generally make players feel better. Its a simple step forward obviously.