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Anonymous

Okay here are the reasons why it was idiot to do it.The whole list of counter is a reason itself along that lava golem was never an op card and you could beat stall burn decks 70-80% of the time.Rb with lava is not considered a burn deck Counters: Trap:Divine wrath,ultimate providence,fiendish chain,ballista squad,raegeiki break,bad aim, Spell:forbidden chalice,econ,certain effect negators or archetype cards. Monsters:you can tribute or syncro lava Blue eyes: syncro into vermillion or other Blackwing:tribute lava for symoon Karakuri:Tribute for kunazman Invoked:fuse into purga Neos:tribute lava for elemental hero neos shiranoob:syncro into sunsaga dm:tribute for dm gouki:tribute for ryscorpio gravekeeper:tribute it for a gk monster dragunity:syncro into ascalon vendread:riutal summon a monster with lava As you see most decks have counters for it(and lots of decks i dont know may have too)these were the most popular ones. Still they cut it in half like idiots

Anoymous

Noob, Sunsaga needs zombie material.

But besides that, I agree with your point: Lava Golem nerf is stupid

Anoymous

If you play the field spell "Undead World", Lava Golem can be used to summon Homuragami. It's the way an undead deck can make good use of the Shiranui extra deck without playing Shiranuis in the main deck since they are 🔥.

Anoymous

You won't always be able to counter it all the time.
Having counters does not always mean a card is not broken. It also depends on how consistent the counter can be pulled off.

Otherwise OCG/TCG would never have a Forbidden section, considering all the cards in the Forbidden section have their counter.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

The card being hit also often gets hit because they themselves are too consistent, regardless of their counter.

Lava Golem has its burn nerfed because it's already consistent enough as a two monsters removal, adding a 1000 burn damage per turn on top of it, IN A 4000 LP ENVIRONMENT, was just too much.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

I just see an inconsistency in this whole nerf situation. Duel Links is supposedly pro quick match; we got so much OTK strategies - and it's okay when we can win in just one turn by attacking. But when it comes to burn/Lava Golem, they want to stall much longer by making it 500 lp per turn, instead of 1000. I mean, the nerfed just make stall strategy slower, and be hated more.

Anoymous

They hit OTK cards too. That's why cards like Trunade, Rose Lover, Foxy Amazing Legs and Raikiri are limited.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

Yea but not erata.. They should've just put Lava Golem in limited list as well

Anoymous

That would be even more effective at hitting burn decks so I agree.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

how about both?

Anoymous

Would be ideal, but contrary to the belief of the baby stall burn complainers, hits to their deck are very rare, so whatever is hit is good.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

I don't even play Lava Golem or burn decks, but I hate the fact that Konami would prefer to change and destroy old cards instead of making new, nerfed version of the would-be problematic old cards.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

So who would play the nerfed one when they have much more op broken cards that they already have, in lava golem case it would be more healthy considering you ONLY HAVE 3 turns implying you have more than 3k lp to get rid that 🔥er and you should know they have more stall cards to make your tribute/synchro pointless + no degen use 1 golem

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

Nice suggestion there, using cards like Divine Wrath & Ultimate Providence to eliminate Lava Golem.

Sure, they can get the job done.
But you just lost 2 monsters on the field and your about to lose another 2 cards just to remove Lava Golem.

Personally, the non-targeting removal is what makes Lava Golem so good. The burn is a bonus, but 4K LP format makes the burn felt too strong.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

Yes, now Lava Golem is useless against my meta decks. The one and only F2P card that I had trouble dealing with is now gone!

Run away from me F2P!
Run away from me forever!!!

Tribute 2 monster from my field? A minor inconvenience for optimized meta decks.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

LoL. You made a summary of Konami's business model in two sentences.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

It's not a minor inconvenience if done at the right time, which is easy to learn.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

It IS a minor inconvenience for an optimised meta deck at ALL times.

If there are times you can't recover properly from this then go buy a newer meta deck.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

f**k you whale!

Not everyone has money like you

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

One, it's "optimized", not "optimised".

And two, I don't know what kind of "optimized meta deck" you play in your dream, but Legend and KOG (KCGP, even) have a lot of players in trouble after they got Lava Golem'd on the right time.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

^The fact about lava golem reside on your field make it harder to remove it. And even if player have something in their deck to remove it, they only had 3 turn to make to remove it.
Full power lava golem is just too much in 4K LP format.