What do you guys think? One more Legion and Destiny Draw? (2page)

<< Anonymous(Le)

One more legion aswell..
Do you think one more dma on the deck?

<< Anonymous(Le)

Player J

Your deck main strategy plan is to use Sage Stone.

The focus of your deck is really focused on Dark Magican Girl.

Sage Stone can't work with out DMG.
Thus, I don't think you should use cards like Dark Magic Attack & Thousand Knives.

The reason why is because those cards are better used in pure Turbo DM decks.

Turbo Dark Magician Decks don't use sage stone. They don't even have DMG.

<< Anonymous(Player J)

Player J

Remember, You are trying to use Sage Stone to get both of DMG & DM on the field together.

The game has cards which are exclusive. These exclusive cards only work when DMG & DM are on the field together.

You don't want to use the Solo DM cards.
DMA & Thousand Knives are Solo DM support cards.
Those are simply better in decks which Solely try to get DM out.

<< Anonymous(Le)

Noah

First of all, you need to know that duel links is game in which we play speed duel. And by speed duel I mean it takes only 5-10 minutes per duel. Thus, it's a bit different from TCG. Adding possessed dark soul or mei kou is not necessary, since you will only have 1 goal for this deck: to summon DM as fast as possible.

<< Anonymous(Player J)

Noah

The key cards you need are 3 DMG, 2 sage stone, 2 DM, 3 soul exchange, 3 champion's vigilance, and 2-3 legion. The reason you need vigilance is to protect your DM from cards like econ, order to charge, mirror wall once you get him on the field. They are cards that being used by meta decks. If you have your DM out but have nothing to protect it's pointless not to mention very risky.

<< Anonymous(Player J)

Noah

Once you've collected your combo pieces, start summoning DMG using soul exchange. Then activate sage stone and bring your DM out. Set 1-2 vigilance on the field, wait for the next turn to attack. But if your opponent has more set cards than your vigilance, think carefully whether you should attack or not. Remember that you need soul exchange for DMG only.

<< Anonymous(Noah)

I'm trying to farm Kaiba but he never drops me vigilance, I need to use a deck for 8k points, I'm missing some pieces.
Thanks!

<< Anonymous(Le)

Player J

I disagree with Noah based on the following statement:

"Adding possessed dark soul or mei kou is not necessary, since you will only have 1 goal for this deck: to summon DM as fast as possible."

I feel that Le goal was to make a deck which had sage stone in it.

Decks which try to summon DM out as fast as possible don't use DMG or sage.

DMG & Sage Stone simply slow DM deck's down.

<< Anonymous(Player J)

Player J

Decks which try to flood the field with only DM don't have time to use DMG & Sage Stone.

They can get DM out extremely fast by using:

Legion
Soul Exchange
Tribute Order
E.Con

They generate enough tribute fodder to get DM out extremely fast.

Decks which try to turbo summon DM usually use his exclusive support cards.

Thousand Knives to 🔥 monsters.
DMA to crush the spells & traps.

<< Anonymous(Noah)

Boxman

Come on.. Don't advise people to use 3 soul exchange. Thats 🔥. I am sure there are better choice of cards than card exploits.

<< Anonymous(Player J)

Player J

The deck which Le is making is the team deck.

It is the DMG + DM team support deck which tries to get them out together.

The problem with this deck is it is not as fast as the single exclusive decks.

Pure DM turbo decks or Pure DMG turbo decks generally get the single monster out the fastest.

However, It comes with a catch.
The catch is they can't use the team support cards.

<< Anonymous(Player J)

Player J

The game sort of rewards you for bring out more cards basically.

It takes more moving parts to get DMG + DM on the field vs only DM or only DMG.

You are going the extra effort to get them out.

Thousand knives kills 1 monster.
The team support card kills all your opponents monsters.

The only question is whether or not Duel links has released all the support cards?

<< Anonymous(Player J)

Player J

Even though, I disagree with 1 of the statements Noah said.

I do agree with his other statement!

Use 3 soul exchange if you have it!

People tell you not to bring the 🔥.
You respond with I am the 🔥!

People say they approve this message.
You respond with I am the message!

The look on there little chubby faces is so priceless!

<< Anonymous(Player J)

Boxman

You are encouranging card exploits? Yes I agreed it may increase the win rate. But it seemed a really cheap way to win a duel. Imo use cards sparingly to win in a fair match.

<< Anonymous(Boxman)

Player J

Boxman, I don't support cheating or exploitation.

I never encouraged thing of the sort.
You are trying to defame me.
If you wish to continue, I shall report you for false allegations.

My recommendation to the OP was to use 3 copies of Soul Exchange in his deck.

Duel Links allows every player the option to use 3 copy's of Soul exchange in there deck.

It is 100% fair.

Saladfingers

There is no such thing as a fair match, guys. In competitive play, you'll want as much advantage as possible. If a deck is destined to be used in PVP, by all means, get as many terminal diseases as possible and stack up on the OP cards and strategies, chances are, you'll probably be beaten by someone who has gone a step further and has become One with the 🔥.

<< Anonymous(Saladfingers)

Saladfingers

If your deck is merely for playing vs SDs and friends, go ahead and stick to whatever floats your boat.
There will always be a gap between PVP Elitist and Play for Fun, there is no compromise here; please, agree to disagree.

<< Anonymous(Player J)

Boxman

Come on don't get offended. We are having a discussion. We all have our fair share of our opinions. I just don't agreed on using multiple "op" cards to win a match. The word "exploitation" here meant fully make use of something for their benefit. (go google) How is it a deflame?

<< Anonymous(Saladfingers)

Boxman

I respect your opinion. Just that we have different views. There are no right wrong. I emphasis a more balanced way to play a match thats all.

<< Anonymous(Boxman)

Saladfingers

No one is offended, but I do believe the conversation got a little out of hand considering the OP is about trying to improve on a deck and the discussion was sounding more like a classic "Heart of the Cards" debate. OP just wanted some pointers :l.

Saladfingers

BTW, I'm curious as to how the deck looks by this point. I saw double BDS and a single Rogue Doll + Neo on the previous pic, I think we'd all like to see an updated pic, Le.

<< Anonymous(Boxman)

Player J

Yes, I got offended because you said I was encouraging exploits.

I never encourage cheating or exploitation.

Every day I see people sending messages in my Yugioh room chat telling other people about websites with free gems, exploits, & hacks.

I report every single 1 of them every day.
I block every single 1 of them every day.

<< Anonymous(Player J)

Player J

Believing a card is over powering is different than saying another person is encouraging exploits.

I believe in playing by the rules.
If you wish to have a discussion, We can have a discussion.

I simply want you to know that I don't encourage exploits or cheating.

<< Anonymous(Player J)

Player J

I wish to clear up 1 more confusion.

My recommendation to have 3 soul exchange wasn't this specific deck!

My statement about the 3 soul exchange was for the turbo DM deck.

It was in response to what Noah was saying.

Le said he was trying to focus this specific deck around Sage Stone.

He is trying to summon DM with Sage Stone.
I don't think he can use soul exchange in this deck.

<< Anonymous(Player J)

Player J

I think his deck space is very limited.
2 - spell/trap remove cards
2 or 3 - sage stone

I think his deck space is very tight.
Maybe 1 soul exchange only?

I usually like to have:

2 Boss monsters
2 Hand traps/utility monsters
8 Level 1-4 monsters
2 Spell removal
2 Other Spells
2 Normal Traps
2 Counter Traps
20 cards Total

His deck seems very limited in space.

<< Anonymous(Player J)

Saladfingers

Pj, you can't get offended at what you read on the internet, otherwise, you lose. Le can use Soul Exchange, he can also rely on Sage's Stone...what's in discussion though is the consistency offered by each strategy and a simple comparison between the two. In the end, Le is the only one able to decide what will make the cut, and that comes after extensive testing.

<< Anonymous(Player J)

Player J

Le Deck based on 4 days ago had the following:

4 - Boss monsters
3 DMG
1 DM

2 - Hand traps/utility monsters
1 Mei

6 - Level 1-4 monsters
2 BDS
2 Legion
1 Neo
1 Doll

0 - Spell removal

4 - Other Spells
1 Half shut
1 SE
1 Sage Stone
1 Rir

4 - Normal Traps
1 Apple
1 MW
1 Circle
1 WOE

0 - Counter Traps

20 Cards Total

I think his deck currently is going to get crushed by heavy back row decks.

<< Anonymous(Boxman)

Noah

Now the reason I suggest him to do that is because 3 soul exchange is op as 🔥, and I don't think it counts as card exploits. It may be in your point of view and you're free to think anyways. But whether he should follow my suggestions or not it's his choice to make.
I want to post a gunsblazing's video to show how things work for this deck. Hope this helps. https://youtu.be/GFxplmBn8fI

<< Anonymous(Noah)

Noah

I forgot to mention that he uses switcheroo here, but it's going to get nerfed bug time soon so you might as well change to skills like power of dark, restart, balance, destiny draw, or last gamble.

<< Anonymous(Noah)

Player J is right, I rely tooo much on sage,I barely summon him without sage even when I have a chance..

I'll take Mai off Ladybug and Riryoku as soon as I get 2+ Vigilance one more legion and 1-2 sage
What do you guys think?