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How to beat/farm Paradox Brothers Lvl 40

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Player J

I think the game needs to change the Assessment Points for Quick Victory. I see Bronze Rank players bragging about finishing the Paradox Event with 5 mil points getting 8k AP every time. I challenge these people to do a duel. I completely destroy them! I play against the Paradox Brothers. I completely destroy them! I get Quick Victory! It gives me 2-3k AP every time? What on earth is going on here? I have barely reached 1 mil AP from this Paradox Event! I don't even remember losing. I don't think I did. I am winning fast! It takes skill to do a combo play which completely overwhelms the opponent in a single turn! I shouldn't be getting 2,500 AP from Quick Victory. It should be like 6,000 - 8,000 AP. This is completely absurd. These people in Bronze rank have random card number amounts in there main deck! I have seen some with 27 cards? WTF? I am so confused right now. How are the Assessment Points being won here? I think something is wrong.

<< Anonymous(Player J)

Anoymous

That's why it call farm deck. Because it purpose is for us to get more DA so that we can get more rewards, more golds, more gems and more cards. If you don't like to play this way, no one blame you. But just satisfy with whatever DA you got and time you needed to finish this event then.

<< Anonymous(Player J)

Anoymous

You are correct, we will use diff deck if we wish to finish the duel fast. But we choose not to do it, since we don't want to waste our time get 1000++ keys and duel that bros 34 times with 3k DA when we can complete the event with 500++ keys and 12 times of duel getting 8k DA everytime.

<< Anonymous

Player J

You are telling me to play "my way".
Than you say I should accept 3k DA.

However, I am telling you why must I accept 3k DA when the way I am playing is the same way everyone plays in rank duels, qualifiers, & in the World Championship?

If the game changes Quick Victory to give 7-8k DA which it should, Than everyone will be able to play the normal way.

<< Anonymous(Player J)

Player J

The "farm way" you are talking about goes against the normal way people play which is the whole issue.

Why are we having to play differently against these Legendary Duelist?

We should be able to play them the same way as if we was in a real duel.

If quick victory increase, We will be able to play that way.

Don't you understand?

<< Anonymous(Player J)

Player J

The way I am asking to play is the same way the game "Konami" made Yami Yugi one of there main characters to be.

The only change I want them to make is with Quick Victory.

It should mean something if I am able to do a sequence of moves in order to win in a single turn.

It takes skill to do such a thing.

A weak deck or weak duelist can't do a sequence of moves in order to win in a single turn.

<< Anonymous(Player J)

Player J

Have you ever played Yugioh in real life?
Have you never heard the phrase "OTK"?

OTK = OVER TURN KILL

What it means is:

The Duel is OVER when it is there first TURN because they are going to 🔥 all your life points.

They will come at you relentlessly.

They plan to do a long sequence of skillful plays in order to win there very first turn.

Does this mean nothing to you?

<< Anonymous(Player J)

Anoymous

So basically you want to say only skill player like you can do quick victory? It doesn't make sense. Sure you need skill but also good hand during first draw. Let me tell you what you need to achieve quick victory with paradox level 50. You need a monster, econ, riryoku and equip spell card on your hand and it done.

<< Anonymous(Player J)

Anoymous

What I trying to say everyone here know about how to get quick victory. Konami even insert the mission on stage 58 want us to get 40 times quick victory. And I achieve it less than haour So, I really don't understand why you really brag about doing that kind of duel

<< Anonymous(Player J)

Otong

Calm down, man.. Dont need to shout out. You can complain to Konami via email. Idk if you shout out or not but those CAPS means it. And.. Maybe they will do the changes if you put this problem to them.

<< Anonymous(Player J)

Anoymous

Further, do you think one who do farming is not skill enough? Most of them is kog but choose that kind of way because want a lot of DA. And, do you even try farming? Do you know how difficult to do it compare to win in few turn, when your opponent still didn't get their best card come out?

<< Anonymous(Player J)

Anoymous

Try farming first than you know what is different duel LD win because you has good hand on your first start compare to duel LD and counter all their powerful monster before you do a final blow. It is more difficult and need more strategies compare to that kind of duel you prefer.

<< Anonymous(Player J)

Anoymous

Don't compare to pvp since the goal is different already. During pvp, our target is gain rank so that's why deck like standby burn that can win fast is consider. We duel LD because the rewards, so more DA is necessary to gain that.

<< Anonymous(Player J)

Anoymous

I will agree you are "skill player" if you can do this during your duel. Achieved quick victory & inflict more than 9999 damage on the same time. So, do that first, show proof and then you can brag about it.

<< Anonymous

Player J

I think there is a misunderstanding here.

What I am saying is I believe both techniques reward skill.

I think both styles are different.

You have one style which is the quick fast 1 hit punch knock out style.

You have another style which is the slow stalling grinding style.

I consider them different styles of playing.

I think both require skills!

<< Anonymous(Player J)

Player J

Some people like the Harpies which are fast Special Summoning trying to knock out the opponent fast.

Other people enjoy Weevil decks which are slow & methodical. They slowly try to grind there opponent down and win with burn damage & piercing damage.

It is different styles.
I believe you should be able to farm both ways and get 8k points for drops.

The problem is the game isn't allowing it!

<< Anonymous(Player J)

Player J

I can't win in 1 turn and get 8k AP.
Why? Because Quick Victory is to low.

A Duel loss is 1,000.
A Duel win is 2,000.
Quick Victory is 2,500.
You are only getting 500 extra points from QV!

It is to low.
I feel it needs to be a lot higher.
It is really really to low.

<< Anonymous(Player J)

Player J

-Some people commented by saying they think it takes more skill to do there style.

-I say it takes more skill to do my style.

However, we both agree, both things require "Skill".

Of course, We are going to disagree on which style is better!

I say the Harpies are better.
You say the Weevil Parasite deck is better.

Of course, We are going to disagree!
However, they both have been KOG!

<< Anonymous(Player J)

Player J

We should be able to farm differently.
People think I haven't been able to get 9,999 attack.

I have a Cerberus deck.
When ever I farm with it.
It feels boring & tedious!
It gives me no joy at all.

In fact, it makes me hate farm.
It even makes me hate the game for allowing it to be the only way to get drops!

The reason I feel this way is because it isn't my style.

<< Anonymous(Player J)

Player J

Some people enjoy farming this way.
It makes them happy.
It is there style.

I am not trying to take away there joy.
I am merely trying to add another way for people like me to get joy!

It don't find it enjoyable to wait 20 turns.

When I can win in a single turn by doing a very awesome combo play which takes skill as well!

<< Anonymous(Player J)

Player J

If the game changes Quick Victory point amounts, It will not affect anyone else the people who are like me.

I enjoy the single 1 punch knock out.
I am sure other people are that way too.

I think Konami should give us the option to get more points doing this different play style.

Why? because it takes skills as well.

<< Anonymous(Player J)

Anoymous

Crazy idea! Go email Konami! It doesn't need to be on a public fan forum!

<< Anonymous(Player J)

Anoymous

@Player J I didn't know getting a good hand or drawing a single on turn 2 meant your good this called rng my Boi not skill unless u don't know how to use the hand ur dealt I don't why quick rng win should be a higher score

Anoymous

You are a noob and yrt you claim that you would beat these people

<< Anonymous(Player J)

Realm

Farming require more effort, the 1st a fore most is time, I can 2nd turn 🔥 both player and NPC alike with Ice Barrier. You spend more time for more reward, it's the same for every game.
I'm KoG to prove that I can beat player easily.

<< Anonymous(Realm)

Retired Noobslayer

Umm relax and chill guys.. This thread is so old now. Perhaps, Player J has already understood by now an inkling of how his thinking was slightly flawed before. The premise here is, both scenarios require "skill", so why they can't have an equally determining reward, right? But, let's shift into another perspectival approach! ...

<< Anonymous(Retired Noobslayer)

Retired Noobslayer

..There might have been an exception truly out there, somewhere.. but I ask of you to think of a game who DOES NOT or CANNOT incorporate in its mechanics, the so-called "farming", and its same conceptions alike. It's NOT like the game is limiting you to strive to win for perfection or hinder your abilities..

<< Anonymous(Retired Noobslayer)

Retired Noobslayer

..we can say, that this so-called determinant thing IS A GIVEN IN EVERY GAME! But the way I phrased it, it now looks scandalous and deplorable. Not really. If you think of it this way, one can understand that it's all about perspectivism, it is really NOT tampering with the OBJECTIVE INCLINATIONS of a said player. Yes, Player J, I mostly agree with all your reasoning, but I strongly believe you

<< Anonymous(Retired Noobslayer)

Retired Noobslayer

...can't or must not fully apply the logic behind those thinking. If it turned the issue is not a contextual one, then it's plainly observable that you are just trying to manipulate, alter, or disprove an already established maxim in the gaming universe. Still, you can push trough it anytime you want. :D

Anonymous

I'm on Plat and 5M point :D Points not related ranks.

Anoymous

Well, to put it simply, winning fast is easy in this game. But you need tricks and strategy if you want to win high score in battle. That is what making it fun. And if you just focus on winning, I bet you'll be bored easily soon.