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Anonymous

I just can see it, there will be lots of questions about this card in the future, due to its effect being only able to respond to built-in/inherent Special Summon, and cannot respond to Special Summon that starts a Chain/occur due to resolution of a card's effect (since you cannot interrupt a card in the middle of resolving).

Anoymous

Nevertheless, this is still a VERY good card to have, since there are a lot of inherent Special Summon in the game.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

Maybe GameA should quickly mention the most important rulings for that card on this page. But I guess some people would still not read it and complain that the card is bugged XD

Anoymous

indeed. so, what eff would be first? levianeer eff or roach?

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

I think you can't levianeer since it starts a chain

<< Anonymous

The dark lord

Wrong!! Levianeer's special summon can be negated because it special summon itself by banishing dark and/Or light monsters!! It isn't special summoned using another cars effect(Spell/Trap/monster effect)! For example, a fusion summon cannot be negated by ROACH! That's because cards and effects cannot be activated during the resolution of another card!!

<< Anonymous(The dark lord)

Anoymous

there will be some missplays around this card, thats for sure. still, for what i've understand, synchro and xyz can be negated. ritual is like fusion, because you have to wait for the ritual resolves

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

Wait for you know who to make a series of 5 videos of 1 hour each, full of clickbait and exaggerations just to explain roach, when the comment above explained clear and simple.

<< Anonymous(The dark lord)

Anoymous

In some cases you can't negate levianeer, like when thunder dragons banish dragondark and co.
Making roach miss the timing

<< Anonymous

The dark lord

Do you have a mind?? Looks like you don't!!
Roach functions just like Solemn warning(for example)!!
You are so smart to think that you can prevent your special summon from being negated by taking advantage of chain blocking method.Darling, when you attempt to special summon chaos dragon(by banishing from the GY, your opponent will be able to activate ROACH's effect.

<< Anonymous

The dark lord

You can't even activate levianeer's effect when your opponent would activate ROACH's effect, that's because your monster didn't hit the field, and ROACH'S special ability activates during the pre-summoning phase. Same thing goes with solemn warning for example. Both, ROACH and SOLEMN WARNING negate a special summon that doesn't start a chain!

<< Anonymous

Nameless

Levianeer will still be negated even if it was banishing Thunder Dragons. In sequence:
1. Levianeer attempting to SS by banishing TDs
2. Roach negates the SS, destroy it and send it to GY
(3. Levianeer's effect won't activate since it was not successfully summoned)
4. Both Thunder Dragons effect will activate

<< Anonymous

The dark lord

Your levianeer won't have the chance to activate it's effect, because it didn't hit the field yet!! You can't even chain any other cards to protect him. The ONLY thing that can protect your monster is a counter trap(Like Divine Wrath), or any other effect that has the ability to negate other cards!!

<< Anonymous(The dark lord)

Nameless

What dark lord just says is correct, that's the reason why it is possible for cards like Solemn Warning to negate Jinzo's summon.

Here's a detailed page for that little window

https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Summon_negation_window

<< Anonymous(Nameless)

The dark lord

Agreed!! It's evident that thunder dragons will still be able to chain, but they cannot block ROACH's effect from resolving!! They may chain immediately after the activation of ROACH's effect!! The chain blocking method won't work!!

<< Anonymous(Nameless)

The dark lord

Chain blocking would work in this case;for example,levianeer successfully summoned activate it's effect, then thunder dragons activate their effects, in this time the other player cannot counter levianeer with divine wrath for example. Thanks to thunder dragons blocking the chain!! But the other player will still be able to activate divine wrath, but it will ONLY counter thunder dragon!!

<< Anonymous(Nameless)

The dark lord

It's true that JINZO prevent the activation of trap cards/trap effects, but it's not the case with SOLEMN WARNING/HORN OF HEAVEN for example.these counter traps activate even before JINZO hits the field(during the pre-summoning phase)!!in this case Jinzo's effect is not applying yet!!

Anoymous

I bet people who think Roach is super OP is probably not aware of the rulings yet.

Roach is a very good card, but not as OP as they thought.

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

overrated

<< Anonymous

Anoymous

ratedover

@OP anon

That's.....interesting

Anoymous

Well that explain why I can't activate Roach's effect when I dueled just 1 hour ago.