When you flip down a monster, when it then flips back up, does that change its status from special summoned to normal summoned ?
There's an opponent who special summoned a Suijin from the graveyard with an effect that looked like "the special summoned monster's effect is negated".
But when I flipped the Suijin face down then attacked it could activate its effect once more.
I suppose a face down Suijin counts as a set monster instead of special summoned. Hence the negation condition wasn't valid any more.
This would mean that shallow grave is very good for Monarch decks then.
Some monarch monsters can be tribute summoned by tributing 1 tribute summoned monster.
I can s.s. any level 5/6 monster, flip it face up then it will count as having been normal summoned, then I tribute him.
Nice.
Wouldn´t work. The monster brought from the GY didn´t need to tribute a monster to be summoned, so despite flip shenanigans, it still wouldn´t count as a Tribute Summon.
Sadly, but from the World Armor trend that is going, I guess it works for him ?
Flipping a face-down World Armor special summoned with Shallow Grave might make change its status from special summoned to normal summoned/set.
Or if you use a Molehu to flip down a special summoned World Armor it becomes set.
Maybe this allows you to unlock its second effect.
Normal Summoned, Flip Summoned, and Tribute Summoned are three specific, separate things, although a Tribute Summon is a type of Normal Summon. Flip Summon is not a Normal Summon, nor a Special Summon. It is a separate kind of summon.
I've been feeling that you might mixed them up as one same thing.
Well, because of my experience with the Suijin Molehu interaction in the first post, I thought that flipping a monster face-down could remove effect negations by changing their summon status.
I suppose the flipping only removed the effect negation then.
If it really changed the summon status also I would have abused this with my Molehu.
What about flip summoning a synchro summoned monster? I'm asking because I found something strange with the card Onimaru the divine thunder. The +3000 ATK boost is not applied (negated) if Onimaru is changed to face-down position and than flipped face up. This applies even if he was summoned only with synchro monsters.
When a monster is flipped face-down, it loses any changes applied to it. So when it is flipped face-up again, Onimaru forgot it was Synchro Summoned, let alone Synchro Summoned using only Synchro monsters as material.
1. A monster will not "forget" the way it was summoned. Special Hurricane can destroy a face-down synchro monster, even if it was flip-summoned or flipped face-up.
2. Monsters do lose effects/buffs/de-buffs once face-down though. If Onimaru is flipped face-down then face-up again. It is still considered it was Synchro Summoned. It only loses it's effects.
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