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Invoked Cocytus

Anonymous
In a video DKayed said it's possible to negate a summon and all it's passive effects. It's like the monster was never on the field. This means Champion's Vigilance can negate Cocytus's summon = negate it's "Cannot be destroyed by your opponent's card effects". Champion vigilance = anti "Cannot be destroyed by your opponent's card effects".
Anoymous
interesting

Champion vigilance can destroy cocytus or Quintet in this case?
Anoymous
Or you could've just read the card and not wait for someone to tell you this kind of thing.
<< Anonymous
Anoymous
If you read the cards it tells you C's Vigilance cannot destroy Cocytus or Quintet.

However, according to DKayed both have to be successfully summoned to be indestructible. This isn't written anywhere however.

The correct question is, Dkayed vs card text, who wins? Who is right?
<< Anonymous
Anoymous
Logic wins, really don't wait for people to tell you everything just think about it for a bit.

CV:Negate the summon or activation

Cocy:Cannot be destroyed by your opponent's card effects. A continuous effect.

Cocytus summon is negated so it never makes it to the field, if it is not in the field its continuous effect never applies.
<< Anonymous
Anoymous
Logic wins, but many people don't understand what "Negate the summon" even have as a consequence. This should be written somewhere.
Plus I always tried to test it but never could. I never drew my counter traps at the right time.

I usually prefer tested answers over thinking without testing. In case I forgot to take another variable into account.

Thanks for your answer though
<< Anonymous
Anoymous
hey hold on you guys.
There is an old post from someone. He said that he used Champion's Vigilance against Quintet but it did absolutely nothing. It was still summoned and wiped the field.

Why did he failed when you three are stating the opposite?
<< Anonymous
Anoymous
the thousand dollars question
<< Anonymous
Anoymous
He/she lied to you.
<< Anonymous
Anoymous
Even if kiwi is face up, quintet summon is negated and then destroyed
<< Anonymous
Anoymous
The lie is in that champion's vigilance can't even be activated to negate quintet. CV doesn't work in summons that happened by a spell/trap card. That "activated but nothing happened" didn't happen, you don't even get a promt in that case
Anoymous
Players/youtubers never mention these kind of things properly so they can keep beating you on pvp or to make click bait videos

Have you had the feeling that your opponent know which traps you have? Why you couldn't activate a counter trap? Why monsters don't activate their effects when sent to the gy? Almost no one talks about these things
<< Anonymous
Anoymous
That sounds true. They always says SUBSCRIBE !!! for more tips and infos at the end of the videos.

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